Zelenskyy moves Christmas

[Santa Craig Maxwell]

KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday signed a law moving the official Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7, the day when the Russian Orthodox Church observes it.

[Rob Thompson]

Unsure how the change of Christmas Day will be received in Ukraine, by those affiliated to the Orthodox Church

I understand Putin has now indicated he may enter into peace talks or rather, he does not reject peace talks.

I only hope and pray that the craziness over there is resolved quickly,

[Sundblom Santa]

2 hours ago, Santa Craig Maxwell said:

KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday signed a law moving the official Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7, the day when the Russian Orthodox Church observes it.

Interesting. Considering everything, I'm Interested in how the Orthodox are reacting to the change. What with the number of differences between Western Christianity (both Protestant and Catholic) and Eastern Christianity (Russian Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, etcetera)—the Gregorian vs. Julian calendar, different ecclesiologies, different feast days, the Filioque clause, and Miaphysitism come to mind (although the latter only affects the Oriental Orthodox)—it's probably not going to be pretty.

Heck, there's even Eastern Protestant Christianity (a sort of blend between the Lutheran, Reformed, or Anglican theologies of the Protestant Reformation with certain Eastern Christian religious practices):

Eastern Protestant Christianity - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

So, yeah . . . I'm suspecting Zelenskyy's plan will go about as well as putting St. Nicholas in a room with Arius. On the bright side, I suppose we can sit back and see what happens. Maybe both sides can come together and promote peace and cooperation.

Edited July 30, 2023 by Sundblom Santa

[SantaKurtKyre]

I'm all for peace and cooperation.

[Sundblom Santa]

2 hours ago, Rob Thompson said:

Unsure how the change of Christmas Day will be received in Ukraine, by those affiliated to the Orthodox Church

I understand Putin has now indicated he may enter into peace talks or rather, he does not reject peace talks.

I only hope and pray that the craziness over there is resolved quickly,

My heart goes out to the innocent civilians on both sides of the conflict. While President Zelenskyy does have his problems I'm sure, Putin's just a monster.

[Schwindy]

Well to be honest with you all.

It's such a mess there right now and certain families will still celebrate Christmas on Jan 7th & many will switch to the 25th of December.

I MUST HAVE FAITH that the elves WILL BE KEEPING IT ALL STRAIGHTEN OUT!!! BUT MOVING THINGS TO the 25th will add a little more pressure to the elves & reindeer, as well as myself for getting in and out & REMEMBERING WHO'S CELEBRATING on the 25th as well as WHO IS STILL sticking with THE TRADITIONAL DATE OF THE Jan 7th!

THIS Could have BEEN VERY BAD IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE "A - CLASS OF ELVES" we have up here @ the Pole!

THEY (The Elves) WILL KEEP EVERYTHING in order & everything will be JUST FINE. 

I ONLY WISH HE (Volodymyr Zelenskyy) WOULD HAVE TALKED TO US FIRST! SOME OF THE ELVES were losing their minds in the downtown area, when they heard the news & all of the chatter coming out of our mailing room & news reporting building. You know how easy that is for those elves telling everyone who is walking around up in that area during the lunch hour!

MAN, DID THAT INFORMATION SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE @ THE POLE!!!

Welcoming the switching around with open arms. 

[Rob Thompson]

1 hour ago, Schwindy said:

Well to be honest with you all.

It's such a mess there right now and certain families will still celebrate Christmas on Jan 7th & many will switch to the 25th of December.

I MUST HAVE FAITH that the elves WILL BE KEEPING IT ALL STRAIGHTEN OUT!!! BUT MOVING THINGS TO the 25th will add a little more pressure to the elves & reindeer, as well as myself for getting in and out & REMEMBERING WHO'S CELEBRATING on the 25th as well as WHO IS STILL sticking with THE TRADITIONAL DATE OF THE Jan 7th!

THIS Could have BEEN VERY BAD IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE "A - CLASS OF ELVES" we have up here @ the Pole!

THEY (The Elves) WILL KEEP EVERYTHING in order & everything will be JUST FINE. 

I ONLY WISH HE (Volodymyr Zelenskyy) WOULD HAVE TALKED TO US FIRST! SOME OF THE ELVES were losing their minds in the downtown area, when they heard the news & all of the chatter coming out of our mailing room & news reporting building. You know how easy that is for those elves telling everyone who is walking around up in that area during the lunch hour!

MAN, DID THAT INFORMATION SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE @ THE POLE!!!

Welcoming the switching around with open arms. 

I almost choked on my tea again reading this Tom,

Jude just asked, what the hells wrong with you spitting tea a the laptopll over lol

Edited July 30, 2023 by Rob Thompson

[Santa Craig Maxwell]

3 hours ago, Sundblom Santa said:

Interesting. Considering everything, I'm Interested in how the Orthodox are reacting to the change. What with the number of differences between Western Christianity (both Protestant and Catholic) and Eastern Christianity (Russian Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, etcetera)—the Gregorian vs. Julian calendar, different ecclesiologies, different feast days, the Filioque clause, and Miaphysitism come to mind (although the latter only affects the Oriental Orthodox)—it's probably not going to be pretty.

Heck, there's even Eastern Protestant Christianity (a sort of blend between the Lutheran, Reformed, or Anglican theologies of the Protestant Reformation with certain Eastern Christian religious practices):

I always appreciate your research, and historical knowledge. Good input. I'm with Schwindy on this one...Ukraine can celebrate both Yule's.  

[Rob Thompson]

3 hours ago, Sundblom Santa said:

Interesting. Considering everything, I'm Interested in how the Orthodox are reacting to the change. What with the number of differences between Western Christianity (both Protestant and Catholic) and Eastern Christianity (Russian Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, etcetera)—the Gregorian vs. Julian calendar, different ecclesiologies, different feast days, the Filioque clause, and Miaphysitism come to mind (although the latter only affects the Oriental Orthodox)—it's probably not going to be pretty.

Heck, there's even Eastern Protestant Christianity (a sort of blend between the Lutheran, Reformed, or Anglican theologies of the Protestant Reformation with certain Eastern Christian religious practices):

Eastern Protestant Christianity - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

So, yeah . . . I'm suspecting Zelenskyy's plan will go about as well as putting St. Nicholas in a room with Arius. On the bright side, I suppose we can sit back and see what happens. Maybe both sides can come together and promote peace and cooperation.

My first thoughts were, Yes, I totally understand why he has made this change. However my second was, how would this impact on the orthodox members. 

Again, the complexities of war are never ending, but at the heart of it, the ordinary citizens take the brunt of it in every aspect of their lives. In this instance when Christmas is celebrated. 

The world is in an awful state at the moment Terribly sad  

[Schwindy]

2 hours ago, Rob Thompson said:

I almost choked on my tea again reading this Tom,

Jude just asked, what the hells wrong with you spitting tea a the laptopll over lol

@Rob Thompson Sounds like WE NEED TO PUT JUDE, ON THE PAY ROLL!!! I LOVE HOW SHE THINKS AND HAS NO PROBLEM "TRYING" to keep you civilized! WE LOVE JUDE & WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HER QUESTIONING YOU & I QUOTE, "What the HELLS is wrong with you?" @Santa Craig Maxwell & myself have been wondering that for years, HECK, MAYBE EVEN A DECADE or two. 😳😳😳 We are just glad she finally asked you about it! WE ARE CONCERNED FOR YOU PAL!!!

Edited July 30, 2023 by Schwindy

[Sundblom Santa]

5 hours ago, Rob Thompson said:

My first thoughts were, Yes, I totally understand why he has made this change. However my second was, how would this impact on the orthodox members. 

Again, the complexities of war are never ending, but at the heart of it, the ordinary citizens take the brunt of it in every aspect of their lives. In this instance when Christmas is celebrated. 

The world is in an awful state at the moment Terribly sad  

Exactly. War, and its aftermath, almost always affects innocent, ordinary citizens (often women and children suffer the brunt of it, although men don't have it easy, either). In brief, "War is Hell" (Gen. William T. Sherman).

Edited July 31, 2023 by Sundblom Santa

[Rob Thompson]

9 hours ago, Schwindy said:

@Rob Thompson Sounds like WE NEED TO PUT JUDE, ON THE PAY ROLL!!! I LOVE HOW SHE THINKS AND HAS NO PROBLEM "TRYING" to keep you civilized! WE LOVE JUDE & WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HER QUESTIONING YOU & I QUOTE, "What the HELLS is wrong with you?" @Santa Craig Maxwell & myself have been wondering that for years, HECK, MAYBE EVEN A DECADE or two. 😳😳😳 We are just glad she finally asked you about it! WE ARE CONCERNED FOR YOU PAL!!!

Speechless!!!   

[Schwindy]

1 hour ago, Rob Thompson said:

Speechless!!!   

Nonsense
It sounds like Malarkey.
Maybe even a little bit of Shenanigans
go with the wee bit of the MALARKEY!!!   

[Rob Thompson]

52 minutes ago, Schwindy said:

Nonsense
It sounds like Malarkey.
Maybe even a little bit of Shenanigans
go with the wee bit of the MALARKEY!!!   

@Schwindy

I find that hard to believe!   

[Grandpa Gus]

Why does it matter? If you follow the Christian faith and they celebrate Christmas on the sixth or the 25 or the 7.  So long as you realize that the greatest gift comes from the creator of us all, and the respect that is due, is paid to the creator at some point.

[Santa Bruce Geron]

Growing up in a family that was either Roman Rite or Eastern Rite, it was normal for us to celebrated as an extended family both observances I suspect the Ukraine will treat December 25 as the Federal Holiday and the Orthodox will still celebrate January 7. As a 2nd generation Ukrainian-Canadian, it appears that Ukraine is choosing a western life style. As with families here in the West, many families in Ukraine will likely celebrate both days, with he difference being that the Ukrainian Catholics can legally celebrate on December 25. We must remember that no mater what day someone selects wwe are still celebrating the Nativity.

[Sundblom Santa]

2 hours ago, Santa Bruce Geron said:

We must remember that no mater what day someone selects wwe are still celebrating the Nativity.

Indeed, "He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God" (Rom. 14:6a).

[Rob Thompson]

[Rob Thompson]

7 hours ago, Santa Bruce Geron said:

Growing up in a family that was either Roman Rite or Eastern Rite, it was normal for us to celebrated as an extended family both observances I suspect the Ukraine will treat December 25 as the Federal Holiday and the Orthodox will still celebrate January 7. As a 2nd generation Ukrainian-Canadian, it appears that Ukraine is choosing a western life style. As with families here in the West, many families in Ukraine will likely celebrate both days, with he difference being that the Ukrainian Catholics can legally celebrate on December 25. We must remember that no mater what day someone selects wwe are still celebrating the Nativity.

Spot on Bruce